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Monday, November 23rd 2009, 3:05am

Historical accuracy

Yes, this games focuses a lot on historical accuracy. Me myself used more time researching how things looked like back then than actually making models. So the time period is set about 52 BC. So if any of you happen to be experts on that time line, feel free to post a picture or two on equipments, buildings and living styles of people then.

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Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 3:53pm

Re: Historical accuracy

well i aint reallyt a genius on this timeframe but i do study history a little maybe I can ask my prefessor if he has any good sites?

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Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 4:29pm

Re: Historical accuracy

Great, that would help a lot, just ask for maybe around 52BC to 0AD timeline

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Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 6:57pm

Re: Historical accuracy

I will see what i can do but i cant promise anything he will probably give me a whole pile of books -.-


this is a website i found when searching i dont know if it will help but anyway.... the 3th is about Julius Ceasar mainly and about his career and family
http://www.historycentral.com/dates/50bc.html
http://www.fincher.org/History/WorldBC.shtml
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi…ound-and-career
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Alesia

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Wednesday, November 25th 2009, 7:12am

Re: Historical accuracy

I'll take a look at them, thank you, but now I'm pressing to finish up some models so that I can put some screenies of the models out.

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Saturday, November 28th 2009, 10:26pm

Re: Historical accuracy

I have a question regarding which Germanic tribes are being put in the game. On the Mount and Blade forums I asked about the Marcomanni, but was told they are probably too far north for the current map. Is it the Suebi in general then and not the Marcomanni subdivision? Just curious. :)

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Saturday, November 28th 2009, 11:33pm

Re: Historical accuracy

We have the factions Rome, Gallia, Spain, and Barbarian. I will upload the map as soon as I get back to my PC, then you can see, who is where. Ifit fits, the Barbarians can be influenced by the Suebi, but I don't know much about them (actually nothing....)
Cogito ergo sum.

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Sunday, November 29th 2009, 5:18am

Re: Historical accuracy

Well the Suebi were a major Germanic tribe with smaller subdivisions (Semnones, Marcomanni, Quadi) and gave their name to Swabia in modern SW Germany....but they were over a larger area than that.

For the time period that is proposed of this game, around that of Caesar's Gallic invasions, many of the Suebi under Ariovistus invaded Gaul before being defeated by Caesar.

Wikipedia has a good general overview http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suebi.

They also were relatively distinguishable by the custom of mostly wearing their hair in a Suebian knot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suebian_knot

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Sunday, November 29th 2009, 6:14am

Re: Historical accuracy

Good info there, this will really help us to keep it accurate.

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 6:23pm

Re: Historical accuracy

remember that we change the history, and that vercingetorix wins over caesar in alesia.

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Thursday, December 3rd 2009, 7:14pm

Re: Historical accuracy

I figured there was some artistic license when Spain was included, since they had nothing to do with the area in question. Regardless, Suebians still would be key players even if Vercingetorix won. :)

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 12:52am

I can try to discuss the equipment of the Gallic and Romans. With the Marian reforms, the Estrucan/Greek/Roman mixed helms such as the Estrucan Corinthian used mainly by triarii become more rare, and the Attic became the helm of officers and the Montefortino become the helm that most legionaries used. I have a picture of the helm, and a model that I prepared for IG as a kind of easter egg item(I also said I'll let Darwin use it).The helm, was originally a Gallic helm and the Romans eventually adopted it after getting invaded by the Gauls.
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3092/2592280706_18de0b6ca4.jpg?v=0[/img]


Other then the Montefortino and its variations, the barbarians enjoyed the use of the Agen, which was the ancestor to the Imperial Gallic Helm.


Another consequence of fighting with Gaul was the increasing reliance on mail armor, with bronze square plates being phased out by the time of the Marian reforms. As for the Gauls, only their elite warriors utilized mail armor, and if this is to be a historical game, great care must be contributed in not confusing Gallic mail shoulder reinforcements from Greek style reinforcements, which the Romans used.

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 1:04am

Greek style-

Gallic Style-


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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 1:31am

Other then that, the Romans had another helm, which was the Coolus, but I'am not certain if it was availiable during Caesar's life. Some websites say some coolus helms were availiable, while others and me think it was an Augustan era helm.

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Wednesday, June 30th 2010, 12:28pm

thanks. and yes , we noticed the reinforcements.

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Monday, August 9th 2010, 7:22pm

I dont want to put any picture because i was afraid of copyright but heres some knowledge...

roman Hastati: has a pilum/throwing spear but shorter and a short sword for stabbing is behind the velites but infron of the principes and are verry young around 16. They use the pilum only before attacking. They also carry a oval shield, and are lightly armored

roman Velites: have throwing spear longer than the pilum and are skirmishers and are a poorer class than the other soldiers and cant pay for armor. They find gaps and traps in the enemy lines and carry a round shield. They are also lightly armored

roman Triarii: Veteran warriors who use long spear and heavy armor and use a oval shield. They are in the back of the legion and are used mostly when they are losing the battle and to get the legion out of a tough situation, and age around their 30's

roman Principes: behind the hastati and infront of the Trarii. They have a oval shield and a short sword for stabbing. they are also used to get the leagion out of a tough situation but not as tough as the trarrii, and age around their 20's. They are also heavily armored but not as much as the triarii.

All cavalry: Are used on the flanks mostly. Most cavalry are heavily armored but with the exeption of the roman auxilary/equites.

Archers i dont think i need to explain.

i never really got into the gallic/spanish army i mostly am into greek/roman but what i do know about the gauls is this:

The gauls usually carried long swords and sometimes a shield most of the time they were lightly armored but have had some units with heavy armor. They are not as organized/civilized as the roman were and before battles sometimes used battle cries to scare their enemy. They painted theire faces to scare the enemy too and did most of this to make their enemy think they were crazy and who would want to fight a crazy person.

With city and culture i also have some stuff that might help too.

The romans were the first to use cement and they made it out of volcano ash and water. This could be used underwater too. They used this to build aqueducts and most buildings. They used the arch in buildings like the aqueduct because it saved time/money and made it more stable.

The gauls used mud/dung huts,and by dung i mean dung. I know it might sound funny but its true. they used this because they were easy to make and didnt cost as much as cement.

i hope i helped you.

regards
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Plato
427 BC-347 BC

Ancient Greek Philosopher